tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post2762000623097741393..comments2023-10-19T02:16:54.141-07:00Comments on Bonjour Tristesse: Shame (2011)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00597866901901238462noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-61925511431638195872012-04-16T12:14:15.851-07:002012-04-16T12:14:15.851-07:00You are extremely generous.
Like I said - your goo...You are extremely generous.<br />Like I said - your good opinion does genuinely sway me. The film looks horribly prudish to me and it may take me quite a few years before I can see it baggage-free.<br />But (believe it or not) you have softened me toward it. :)Lisa Thatchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-30168944259394245582012-04-15T07:44:24.084-07:002012-04-15T07:44:24.084-07:00You know that's a good point. I agree it would...You know that's a good point. I agree it would have been much more brave, I don't know if that's the right word to use, maybe challenging, to cast an everyman in the main role. I would add Paul Giamatti to your list.<br /><br />But I also think in this case, Fassbender and McQueen already had an established and successful working relationship, and that probably had more to do with the casting decision than simply his looks. <br /><br />Also, feel free to rant away anytime, I don't mind at all.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-35423830665473377202012-04-14T10:33:54.689-07:002012-04-14T10:33:54.689-07:00I didn't have a problem with it. I kind of sa...I didn't have a problem with it. I kind of sat up and took noticed of it - this beautiful girl in a flashy dress obviously singing her heart out - I don't think its a far stretch to think the audience there wouldn't do the same thing.Shalahttp://life-between-films.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-257452867844896762012-04-13T14:04:10.155-07:002012-04-13T14:04:10.155-07:00YOUR approbation means everything and is the only ...YOUR approbation means everything and is the only plus this film has for me. I have so many problems with this. Why did they use MF? Brad Pitt wasn't available? Why not John C Reiley? Or much much better, Ray Winstone who would have turned this into something incredible! (and far more accurate)<br /><br />I'm not saying MF isn't a good actor, I'm saying why does the protagonist have to be a beautiful man? That is the start of the disrespect for me, and tells me they want to use the subject matter for titillation, or because of an assumption of stupidity in their audience. <br />I hate being right about this - but I SO trust my gut. <br />But your positive opinion is this films first tick on the plus side.<br />Thanks for letting me get passionate (have an annoying rant) on your blog! You are my host and that was a bit OTT from me. <br />But still - grrrrrrrrr......<br />(smiles sweetly)Lisa Thatchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-71626856415293445972012-04-13T12:25:09.053-07:002012-04-13T12:25:09.053-07:00One of my favorites of 2011 (although I saw it in ...One of my favorites of 2011 (although I saw it in very early 2012)- I love McQueen's style (Hunger is another amazing movie) and I thought Fassbender's performance was Oscar worthy, but I guess it was too much for the prude Academy voters. Great review!Dianahttp://azizaspicks.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-78059015475599118622012-04-13T01:41:27.183-07:002012-04-13T01:41:27.183-07:00I gave
Shame 7.6 in my monthly recap. I didn’t kno...I gave<br />Shame 7.6 in my monthly recap. I didn’t know McQueen had that background in<br />visual arts. Good point about the cinematography, which seems to symbolize<br />Brandon’s detached state of mind. It’s an unusual approach that we empathize<br />with a character who is so cold. What is to blame for his and his sister’s<br />behavior gives the story an ambiguous dimension I think. Much is left<br />unsaid. Good review BT365 moviesandsongs365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-45242908847764073582012-04-12T19:20:55.872-07:002012-04-12T19:20:55.872-07:00Haha, I understand your reservations, but I think ...Haha, I understand your reservations, but I think you might be unfairly judging this one by it's cover. Despite the cast, setting, and how it's been marketed, this really isn't a 'Hollywood film' at all. <br /><br />I do think the director is a bit of a pretentious controversy hound, but he does have a strong visual sense and an unique way of telling a story.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-90861261534575731092012-04-12T19:05:32.912-07:002012-04-12T19:05:32.912-07:00Yeah, both of McQueen's films have that effect...Yeah, both of McQueen's films have that effect on you.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-85433491478425755262012-04-12T19:04:11.195-07:002012-04-12T19:04:11.195-07:00First of all, thanks for visiting and commenting.
...First of all, thanks for visiting and commenting.<br /><br />The film was primarily about addiction, and it is a very realistic portrayal of it. However I'm pretty sure if this was another story about an alcoholic, gambler, or junkie it wouldn't get a tenth of the attention it did. <br /><br />Also a small correction, that cool running scene actually takes place on 31st street, starting just west of 5th avenue and ending at 7th.<br /><br />But I do agree that at least Fassbender should have been nominated at this year's Oscars.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-52158421076305132062012-04-12T13:18:41.254-07:002012-04-12T13:18:41.254-07:00I really hate it when Hollywood take on subject ma...I really hate it when Hollywood take on subject matter like this. I was intellectually repulsed by the concept of the film. The fact that you enjoyed it is the only thing that has made me mildly curious. The trailers are appalling. Honestly, I see more truth in Russell Brand making jokes about sex addiction than I see any hope for in this film.<br />Hollywood glamorises topics like this with this - "oh? Didn't you know sex addiction has a dark side?" kind of approach. They do it with so many 'sexy' (pardon the pun) topics. One that instantly comes to mind is Philadelphia - 'Oh? Didn't know you Aids victims are unfairly victimised?' Its patronising and reductionist and my most despised of all attempts at film making. <br />Then I read in the comments below that people have been going on about MF penis size!<br />I rest my case!Lisa Thatchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-72689279605075831482012-04-11T21:33:36.165-07:002012-04-11T21:33:36.165-07:00This is one of those movies where I thought it was...This is one of those movies where I thought it was terrific, but it's not one that I would want to see again anytime soon. Just too dark and depressing, even with a phenomenal performance from Fassbender.Erichttp://twscritic.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-48798594005748652932012-04-11T09:17:11.755-07:002012-04-11T09:17:11.755-07:00McQueen’s
film was about addiction and not about s...McQueen’s<br />film was about addiction and not about sex and was a particularly challenging<br />watch, being both disturbing and graphically realistic. I was impressed with<br />the acting from both our leads particularly Carey Mulligan who really came of<br />age in this movie with Fassbender giving a great portrait of a self loathing man<br />that was trapped inside himself. The cinematography by Sean Bobbitt (Hunger) was brilliantly executed with<br />some exceptional long shots including Brandon’s midnight run across Manhattan<br />from the East River along 28th Street in a single shot of<br />extraordinary beauty. McQueen is a very clever director that encourages us to<br />connect with the characters by drawing inferences from the clues he assembles, acknowledging<br />the intelligence of the audience unlike many films. Coming away from the<br />theatre I was unsure about this film with it’s depiction of joyless sex and its<br />lack of humour, but on reflection I believe this to be a benchmark in British<br />film making and can’t understand why it has not been nominated in this years<br />Academy Awards?Movie Ramblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-32563990928029134262012-04-11T01:44:59.228-07:002012-04-11T01:44:59.228-07:00Yes that ending was a nice touch. Is it a reversal...Yes that ending was a nice touch. Is it a reversal of roles? are we seeing the cycle beginning again, or is it the end of the line? <br /><br />As for Fassbender, he deserved a nomination for sure, but I'm positive he will get one sooner or later.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-34137321737370164382012-04-11T01:39:31.933-07:002012-04-11T01:39:31.933-07:00 Welcome Shala! and thanks for taking the time to ... Welcome Shala! and thanks for taking the time to comment<br /><br />I agree that the singing scene was a beautiful moment, my issue with it has more to do with the audiences reaction, rather than Brandon's. It just made me think 'yeah right' and lessened the impact for me.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-75605555515429239582012-04-11T01:34:14.793-07:002012-04-11T01:34:14.793-07:00Do see it. He does deliver perhaps the best acting...Do see it. He does deliver perhaps the best acting performance of 2011.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-11291157169245978162012-04-11T01:33:21.865-07:002012-04-11T01:33:21.865-07:00I didn't so much mind the whiny clingy charact...I didn't so much mind the whiny clingy character, and I did love how she aggravated the situation, but I guess she just didn't come across as entirely real to me.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-42386952276464628482012-04-11T01:29:52.683-07:002012-04-11T01:29:52.683-07:00Haha thanks Pete. I don't see what the fuss wa...Haha thanks Pete. I don't see what the fuss was all about, I guess it's not something you see very often in American films, but those scenes really had nothing to do with anything, so to me it really isn't worth mentioning in a review.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-66038648475013475222012-04-11T01:26:11.812-07:002012-04-11T01:26:11.812-07:00 Thank you Margaret. It seems my opinion of her is... Thank you Margaret. It seems my opinion of her is not a popular one.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-64527364085573062532012-04-11T01:24:05.444-07:002012-04-11T01:24:05.444-07:00I did appreciate the sibling relationship, and tho...I did appreciate the sibling relationship, and thought that was well written, and I normally love Carey in everything I've seen her in, but for some reason she didn't convince me here. I may have to give this another viewing because it seems like everyone else loved her performance.<br /><br />To be fair I've not actually worked in a massive corporation with thousands of employees, but I've repaired machines for mid sized and small businesses including lawyers, accountants, professors, and all kinds of executives, and some hide it better than others but the one thing they seem to have in common is porn. It's not the majority, but enough for me not to be surprised when encountering it.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-87558627203269562452012-04-11T01:11:47.003-07:002012-04-11T01:11:47.003-07:00I'm glad you agree with me there, although I d...I'm glad you agree with me there, although I didn't mind the length so much as the crowd's reaction. I don't think you can hear a single clinking glass or hushed voice in the background and it's just not believable. People in bars like that are never so attentive to the music. Sure if that was your sister or friend up there singing, but for a stranger I don't think so.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-83590520708509160972012-04-11T01:06:16.745-07:002012-04-11T01:06:16.745-07:00Yeah I think I will have to give this another view...Yeah I think I will have to give this another viewing at some point.Bonjour Tristessehttp://www.bonjourtristesse.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-85471361716028666922012-04-10T16:57:40.556-07:002012-04-10T16:57:40.556-07:00Closing with a cleverly inverted sense of ambiguit...Closing with a cleverly inverted sense of ambiguity, Shame is an effective film both performance-wise and from a technical standpoint. Fassbender is also perfect in this role and I really do hope he at least gets a nomination for an Oscar. Good review.Dan O'Neillhttp://twitter.com/DantheMan610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-27942532409281759452012-04-10T15:29:39.270-07:002012-04-10T15:29:39.270-07:00sounds like an interesting film...sounds like an interesting film...Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-39192623183992122302012-04-10T14:30:46.227-07:002012-04-10T14:30:46.227-07:00Hi. New reader! I think I also loved this more tha...Hi. New reader! I think I also loved this more than you did. I thought the film was brilliant, disturbing, sad, beautiful, and profound. I really liked the singing scene and I think it served a real purpose in the film that embodied these two characters that seemed to be running away from their past in NJ to NYC (though we never learn exactly what happened in their past) but can never can escape their demons. It was a beautiful moment for me. It didn't need to be perfect or Adele-like. To me, it mirrored their imperfections. <br /><br />life-between-films.tumblr.comShalahttp://life-between-films.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-556159764413551252.post-46783649529862005762012-04-10T13:19:12.062-07:002012-04-10T13:19:12.062-07:00Yeah I've heard of this.. was never really con...Yeah I've heard of this.. was never really convinced. I'm still not, but I do want to see Fassbender's performance. Guesthttp://d4andmusic.blogspot.in/noreply@blogger.com